After all the vicious attacks on Obama, and all the people saying how bad he'll be for this country, I just want you to read what McCain says about him:
"I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States. He's a decent, family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_angry_crowds
So if McCain thinks he can run the country and isn't the anti-Christ, why are all of you convinced he is?
Just curious.
[question posted by myklj999]responses and comments:
McCain HAS to say that. To say anything else would be political suicide. [sndcain36]
i can agree on this one.. [maverickden]
Tee For President!!!!!!!! Yea!!! and thats all i'm going to say... [Rosekitty]
*runs after you* *points down to post* hehehe. :D [darkjedi]
I just have to say THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! [camomom]
Thanks for the link I was so happy to hear and then it slowly started fade away as conservatives popped my excited lol Oh well in several months it will all be over with. I just hope when it does the hate goes with it. [ZephyrSun]
Tee for president. *screams it running thru the discussion naked* Hehehe. [darkjedi]
Of all the political posts, I think this is the one that touches my heart most. After all, neither Obama nor McCain is anything more or less than a man trying to do what he thinks he ought to do. The venom spewed about both is hideous. Both probably wish there were some things done differently, but who doesn't have a thing or two like that in past years? That McCain could be so straight-forward and honest about the situation should put the fire-breathing zealots to shame. As for you, my friend, I couldn't be prouder. When a level head is called for, you come right on through. Proud I am to know ye!happywink [cobrateacher]
They're conviced because the hateful rhetoric coming from the McCain camp and those who support him has gone on for too long. Yes, McCain had to change his tone because his rallies were turning into ugly mob scenes fueled by both him and Sarah Palin. What bothers me more than the ugliness he has been promoting is that McCain...and his advisors...failed to realize what would happen if these attacks continued. The unintended consequence of making someone fear another person is that they start to hate him and thoughts of violence replace thoughts of reason. Kinda like the KKK used to do when they talked about how the black man would rob them and rape their wives and daughters. [spalladino]
Does no one else see this? I can't be the only one. There are some fundamentaly important things happening and with them a greatly growing anger, almost a revolution mob mentality. [xfahctor]
What I am talking about ha nothing to do with racism. I'm talking about a growing anger in this country against government in itself, against candidates in themselves. It's multi faceted, there isn't just 2 sided, republican vs democrat battle brewing. There are other factions out there just as angry at both, but it is only being manifested publicly as D vs R at the moment. But more and more peopel are realizing that neither party represents this countries princibles any more and it is the willing drift away from these princibles that is fueling anger and is in fact, the greater cause of what is wrong with our nation. [xfahctor]
I saw that and I thought that was very classy. A woman said I think he's an Arab. He shook his head and said No. He's not. And thatr's when he said he's a decent family man. That is the way these politions should be. But no. As a matter of fact, after that, he came out with some new attack ads. It looks like Obama going to make it. I am voting for Mcain but either way, I feel you just have to live your life, take responsibility for your own finaces and just do the best you can. One president ovfer the other isn't going to make or break your life. [marty3888]
McCain is saying that to quell the possibility of violence. His crowds have been getting very worked up. This is a dangerous time. People are afraid because of the economy. He's just trying to calm them down. [piasabird]
I don't disagree with that comment. I'm trying not to hate him myself. [piasabird]
Hi myklj999, I don't mcCain, he looks very sly, but I don't know much about your polictics but if I was voting I will go for Obama, I think he is ok. Tamara [tamarafireheart]
Oh, I don't think Obama is the anti-christ or a terrorist in hiding or any of the other things they say he is. To me he's inexperienced and naive about how things work, he's beholden to the dems and their leftest views. I don't think McCain should play nice with him, its called an opponet for a reason, shake his hand when its over, don't raise it in victory before he's won. [gitfiddleplayer]
"...its called an opponent for a reason, shake his hand when its over, don't raise it in victory before he's won." -gitfiddleplayer (10/10/2008) (c)gitfiddleplayer publishing. all rights reserved. -Don't agree with your presidential choice, but I love your tasteful phrase. [mrghill]
with the statement of Mc Cain. that we can more say that Mc Cain is really a good man cause he never attacks Obama personally. and that is what his supporters love about him. He does not take this election too personally. He just wanted whoever desrving for the position to win and not having any personal grudge or any thing against Obama personally though they are running against each other for the position. I just don't know if Obama is just the same with Mc Cain and if he just stick with the issues and don't attack his opponent personally. Case lately with the news that i am hearing it seems that there are so many bad things coming out of the moutn of Obama. with so many people now criticizing him for the things that he had said in front of the media. anyways, i don't know both candidates that much since i am not from USA. but i hear some news about them here in my country in my local news and local cable channel news too. there are some things i like about Obama and there are things that i like about Mc Cain. and so i don't have any favorite among the two. i just wanted any one deserving to win the election. [hotsummer]
My niece just said the same thing a week ago. If Obama was elected her biggest fear would be assasination. They are already talking about how to protect Obama. Hmmm...Our country is falling a apart at the seams. We have more domestic issues rearing their ugly head everyday. We need a strong leader that will take the principals our founding fathers had and run with them. Create better government, not more government. And certainly not run our wonderful country into the ground. We as Americans need to take more responsiblilty and keep our candidates in check. We need to use our voice and turn our situation around. It seems like a duanting task but if we don't will will be among those with less freedoms and wish we had. Regardless of who you are voting for-I think the real issues is personal accountablity. Vote Responsibly, and if you don't vote don't B*tch. Sorry just had to throw that in there. [deeesfamilyvalues]
It seems odd that we are trying to figure out how to keep him alive and he isn't even our presidnt yet. I am not well versed in politics, but do they put secret service on any other candidate? Does McCain have protection of any kind paid for by us? That just seems weird. Sorry for not knowing. [deeesfamilyvalues]
This discussion is directed specifically for the extreme anti-Obamalisionist in the MyLot community, which I'm not. I'll put my two cents in anyway when I say that McCain should have kept all of his answers dumbed-down to single words with under six letters each for the type of crowd he was speaking to in Minnesota. The thing he could have worked on rather than be led into a dispute of opinions about his political opponent was attempting to appease the lowest common denominator. The words beer, on, me, now probably would have given him a more positive response from the obviously inbred crowds that already live in a state that feel that Black-Americans can best served their country as christmas ornaments. [mrghill]
Obama supporter speaking up here - seriously? That kind of bashing just totally pizzes me off. It's as divisive and nasty as what we were hearing coming out of people at Palin rallies. It's not confined to one side or the other - there are consciously ignorant (not stupid, not unintelligent, but ignorant) people on all sides of the issues, and they drag the entire conversation down. It's rhetoric loaded with *bam* words that appeal to hate instead of rationality. [chameleonsdream]
I never called him the anti-Christ. What I've said is that I don't like the people he associated with and cannot imagine why he did if he didn't believe the same things. You know..."birds of a feather flock together"? And I absolutely DO NOT agree with his politics. Our country was not founded on the Robinhood principal. I do not understand why anything thinks it's okay to overtax the so-called rich to give money and programs to the poor and middle class. After seeing his responses at the debates about foreign policy, I'd be scared to death to have him as President. [kenzie45230]
N4life, Why would you ask that? The country has been full of hate filled freaky BUSH haters for the last 8 years. [morethanamolehill]
The McCain/Palin campaign sure sunk lower than I thought a man of decency like McCain would go. He said months ago that he would not go there. I don't think he realized how many hateful nutjobs he would stir up. He should have known -- this is a country with a history of assassinations! His conscience has got to be bothering him. Beyond that, McCain has damaged his reputation and may not be able to work across the aisle again. With the Democrats looking like they're going to enjoy gains in the legislature as well as win the White House, he is going to have a hard road. [MoonlightSerenade]
This has been a very interesting discussion. Not often can you read a discussion and see the fears and small mindedness of people glowing so brightly. Our economy is in trouble. Most of us are hoping that our next president can do what is necessary to fix the situation. Maybe he can maybe he can't. I don't think anyone can answer this question with certainty. One thing that I don't see happening is for our next president, whoever that may be, to fix the issues in this country that existed long before we were in an economic crisis. [Lee_Rites]
Myk, I'm one of those people who isn't convinced. The man scares me. His dealings with Ayers, ACORN, Wright and God knows who else should be sufficient evidence that the man is not "a decent person." He has an agenda, and I think that by the time we learn what it is and he carries it out this country will have been sold out. Question: Are YOU convinced that he's "the man"? Memo to self: Sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees. (C) 2008 RJScott [rjscott]
Drk, did I "bash" Obama? I QUESTIONED some of his actions that have been reported as "suspect." I said ONLY that the man frightens me. As far as Wright is concerned, why did it take an "intelligent" man such as Oboma TWENTY YEARS to leave a church whose leader spewed nothing but hatred? Or was it the "press" that he was getting that prompted his departure? [rjscott]
Hello myklj999 Whatever the reasons or reasoning for McCain doing this, at least he did it and I won't fault him for that. While I have not been a supporter of either candidate, I do respect their positions. However, I must say that I was somewhat disturbed by McCain's recent comments in support of Obama. Mind you, I wasn't upset by his use of the term, 'That one.' I didn't see it as a racist comment, although I'm open to the idea that it may be offensive to some people. What disturbed me about his latest comment regarding Obama, was when the woman said to him that she was afraid of Obama because he was an Arab, and McCain said, "No, he's a decent and good man..." To me, this sounded like he was saying that 'decent and good' is opposed to 'Arab.' Is it only me, myklj999? Am I reading more into this than is there? Thanks for the discussion. [Transdisc]
To me, no, there is nothing wrong with being an Arab. But the woman who asked the question obviously believed that Obama can't be trusted because he's an Arab. What McCain needed to defuse was the notion that he is turning a blind eye to the way his campaign has been characterizing Obama. I doubt he considered that by not also saying "Being an Arab does not mean that a person is untrustworthy" would be seen as perpetuating a stereotype. [chameleonsdream]
I don't have much to say on this one except that I was really surprised at how people can get so carried away with things like this. WHen I first received an email from a friend carrying on how Osama is the anti-Christ and claiming to have facts to support that I don't even know if I was shocked or surprised or just... who knows what? Worse yet when after a while some people actually seemed to believe it. GIve me a break!!!!! I don't claim to know who will be better for president and I confess I have followed it only superficially, but each candidate is a person, not a God, a devil or any other combination of deities. Geesh :) [arkaf61]
I really do not like the last month before elections. Everything just gets out of hand. Pretty sure this is my last official post to any political discussion--I'm just getting a bit tired of it. I'm an Obama supporter, and I really really don't like McCain's stance on many things. But I'm not going to go around hating the man. Why? Because I don't know him! I think the outright hatred and anger is going to hurt our country more than either of the candidates can. Also, I like your comment earlier that you can't b!tch if you don't vote. I've believed that for awhile. [nerdytina]
hi myklj999 he had to say that to get out of all the crap he has said before. oh I promised myself I would not get caught up in 'any religious discussion. It always ends up with me losing points and ranking and my star going the wrong way.I am even' afraid to say who I am planning on voting for, as I will get bashed for sure. I am a chicken so okay so be it. lol. I just feel that McCain is just another clone of Bush and I really should not even have s aid that. lol lol. [Hatley]
My personal opinion, myklj, is that McCain is only trying to do damage control due to the horrible accusations and bad-mouthing about Obama. He finally realizes that this has done him no favors in his campaign and only shows how low they are willing to go. I really believe that the introduction of Sarah Palin into the campaign has turned it into the ugly thing it has grown to be. If McCain does lose it will be in large part due to her ruthless attacks on Obama. So far as the things people are willing to believe goes, I've learned that they will believe anything if they tell themselves it's true often enough! [worldwise1]
Yes, I saw this on the news, I think McCain is losing confidence in himself. I will be glad when this election is over all this mudslinging is just getting the best of everyone. All they are doing is digging in each other's closed closet. Now they are talking about Sarah Palin, violating her power of authority. It is just one thing after another. Everyone has skeltons in their closet. So why should they all air each others dirty laundry. Sorry I got carried away. Get the behind me Satan. [Chevee]
I find the elections down there, or rather the campaigning so bizarre, myklj. I mean, with all the mud slinging, and bickering, intrigue and accusations.. how do y'all even know what these people stand for? I see a LOT of political coverage up here.. from down there. I go to vote on Tuesday.. our country, too, is about to pick a new leader. All I have heard about our candidates, is what they plan to do. And occasionally, something, politically, that another candidate has done with an explanation of why it wasn't good for Canada. I don't even know what all the candidates look like. And I don't care. I don't know their religions, and I don't care. I don't know if they ever had a mistress, or if they have children or anything, and I don't care.. What I care about, is what they plan to do for this country. Call me strange.. but it just seems to me that this is a better way to run an election. I often wonder, if all this mud slinging is to avoid discussing the real issues. I mean, someone who doesn't sit there and watch the debates, and just relies on newspapers.. or worse yet, tabloid propaganda type news stations.. would probably know little about the issues, and everything about the candidates personal lives. I'll tell you why I don't think Obama is the anti christ.. I don't think he is because so many people think that he is, if he was.. no one would think so. I am not sure what McCains motives were for what he did. But I think it took guts to stand there and be booed. As for the Arab comment.. I find that confusing.. is he not an American? What was the nationality of the woman who made the comment? [CurlyRed]
I made a comment to Trans that I don't understand why everyone seems to be arguing about who is the worse person, instead of debating who can do the best for our country. [myklj999]
i think obama is the best man to run america right now wel atlst after reading his book and seeing his movie on global warming i feel he is atlst a realist may b it is his campaign trik but stil i like him anyway who ever it is al i want america to change is its foriegn policies it really suks dude [drnehasth]
The global warming movie was Al Gore's [xfahctor]
This is so true and thank you Myk for posting this!!! I am surprised that McCain would do such a thing, but at the same time I am glad that he did, so people can stand up and pay attention that this is a great man to have as a president, whether you agree with his ideals or not. Another thing I must say is, most of the attacks on Obama seem to be where he is connected to a person or organization that has done something wrong. Never do they pin something directly on Barack, but whenever things go wrong that he was remotely connected to, its his fault and he shouldn't be President because of it. Come on people? The stuff that McCain and Palin get called out about, they actually had something to do with. Are you just mad that you can't find something to pin directly to Obama? [drknlvly6781]
I just have major issue with how he says one thing and does another (first standing behind Rev Wright and then not)...or says one thing to one group and says another to others (the bitter gun owners comment)...and He never once accepted McCain's requests for debates through the campaign trail (Which no one wants to discuss except for McCain asking to postpone the debate) until the scheduled presendential debate....I think a person with the most experience and has shown integrity through his service to our country IMO will get my vote. I look at as a job interview.....and I do not think this should be job training. Simply put McCain has experience in a variety of things that involve the White House. And alot of the things Obama says and does doesn't add up. The average voter who supports him I don't think are reading up or following him. He criticized McCain for supporting the bail out....we so did he. I saw it myself when I watched the news and they shoudl the results from the local senators who voted on it...and Obama's name was a resounding yes...the only no was from KY rep Jim Bunning. But back to the quote by McCain....Makes me respect McCain all the more for stating the obvious about Obama's intelligence. After all this is not a Football game or a prize fight where people should duke it out...this is simply an election of who is qualified...to me it is hands down McCain between the two candidates running. [taface412]
No problem. But also McCain has been compared to the same individual (Hitler) I think it was when Madonna flashed a pic of McCain and Hitler side by side at a concert or something like that...anyways I know what you are saying it ticks me off when I heard a couple of weeks ago when some polling expert (which I never believe stats-highly prejudicial and unreliable) implying that most white americans who support McCain are afraid of a black preseident....now this is ridiculous. If, and that is a big IF, I was concerned with Obama as President it is not because of what he looks like it is his actions.... I was supporting Paul before, but even he has given me concern because even though he is not on the ticket he has a lot of supporters and he will not stand up. Makes me wonder why. I look at a whole perspective of things on people for this election....personal choices, political/military experience, CONSISTENCY, and integrity. And I not denying the fact that last November when he announced he was running (Obama) I was excited....this would be an unforgettable election....but after the excitement wore off I did some research and changed my mind. And I am glad I did my research, because no matter who is in the office and no matter how things turns out I chose who I thought would fill the seat by a logical elimination...Sorry I got long winded there. And thank you for posting something worth talking about between the two candidates in a respectful way. [taface412]
Mykjl, thanks for posting this. I have read this thread with interest. I am unsure of who I will vote for. My Daddy says McCain and my hubby is leaning towards Obama. I don't love either choice. But it's funny what you said about Obama and being assasinated. My dad said the same thing to me last night. He said imagine the race riots. The poor man isn't even in office yet and everyone already has him being killed. This is the most depressing election ever.... [awonderfullife]
I never liked Obama, because if the leftist media is behind him then he is bad for the country. He may be said to a nice man, but does a nice man vote against the born alive bill? Does a nice man want same sex marriages made legal across all the States? Does a nice man want the laws on some states that are pro life be struck down? I did not need McCain's negative ads to make up my mind. Oh the anti-Christ is someone who thinks he is god, he wants men to worship him, he has the adoration of the masses, who is charismatic. I doubt that McCain fits that bill. He is rather boring. So when McCain said about Obama being decent, you wanted him to say that since you were already had your mind made up. If McCain had come with documents to prove that Obama planned to take over as dictator of the United States and be something like a modern Hitler, even if he swore on a stack of Bibles, you would not have believed him. It is not the appearance of the man, it is what he did in the past. And you should also investigate the bad things that Obama has done not McCain. [suspenseful]
suspenseful, if you'd do what your supposed to and read all the responses before replying, you'd have seen that I am not voting for Obama either. But as usual, in your quest to be right about everything you ignore anything anyone else says. I'm not investigating the bad things either of them have done, because I am not voting for either. There are other candidates for President besides those two. [myklj999]
i don know wat to say.. no matter who d next president is, he will only luk at the oil fields in d middle east..!! at least tht is what is being happening til now.. [pushkarmore]
oil is the major concern though.. [maverickden]
Hey Michael. Hows it going. I honestly don't think any one is ready to run this Country. It really scares me. I'll be voting for a third party also. [walkthetalk]
OK, I think that basically, both men could lead this country as well as the other. Both are advocating change in Washington, but by different means. And change in Washington is definitely needed! Politically, I call myself a conservative liberal - essentially middle-of-the-road moderate. I decided to be a conservative liberal because trying to be a liberal conservative, well, just ain't no such creature! As with other responses noted, what scares me most is the reactions of the far right conservatives. Yeah, the ones proclaiming to be Christian. They spout the most hateful, spiteful, and downright distortions of Obama, that I would hand my head low in shame. Ok, so Obama has one of the most liberal voting records in Congress. Look where being conservative has gotten us: repeal of statues inacted during FDR's administration that prohibited the speculation on mortgages and lending prompted a lot of CEO's of financial instutions to scam marginally qualified people and allow over-valuation of real estate in the name of greed. For the LOVE of MONEY. Now, we're on the brink of another depression, and both political parties and scrambling to undo the damage. I do believe in free markets and capitalism, but we also need a government that protects the less fortunate, the people who do not understand all the financial trickery that the scam Artists can come up with (I belong to this group). Ambition is fine, just as long as you're not shafting other people out of their life savings. Not sure if McCain would do enough or that Obama would over do it. [celticrogue]
Personally I always vote for the party. And I actually think most parites and most politicians actually mean well! (Even if they are a bit self interested and enriching. "Share the wealth", with us? I think not. With their cronies more like it.) I'm always for the party I think will lead us to destruction the slowest! To me, many liberals seem to have more of a socialist view which penalizes and stifles productivity (besides good ole citizen Joe gets to pay the increased taxes upon corporations. It's not like the cost won't be passed on to us.) And less productivity means less jobs and more welfare.. til government is all in all.. the answer, and provider of everything (til they quit providing cause their no productivity left, or they sucked it all up but forgot to distribute it) and checks and balance upon power falls.. And then, look out! Also the abortion issue is very important to me, as I think we are building up quite a bit of payback.. or 'karma' if you will.. How much more so if it becomes totally unrestricted whatsoever.. Besides, that was what really ticked God off in the Old Testament days (which of course always gets left out of the story(s) - when the nations worshipped their 'gods', included were love fests and then I guess they figured they had to do something useful with all the unwanted babes.. And that was like THE last straw (ps 6?) [flowerchilde]
rolleyesEasy. McCain isn't a conservative. Wish he'd muzzle that idiot daughter of his. What a moron!! [Fortunata]