None of what I'm going to write here is meant to be nasty or sarcastic, rather I'm asking some sincere questions so I know where I stand when I post here and know if I'm on the same page as some of you here. Here goes anything - now, give me your honest opinion but please be nice because I'm really sincere and serious! If I state the following opinions will you take it as me attacking Sarah Palin:
Personally, I couldn't see myself with five kids! Not that there's anything at all wrong with it but I couldn't do it!
I respect Chuck Hagel's opinion, Republican or not, so when he says it's troubling that she never had a passport until last year and that her foreign policy experience is questionable I tend to agree.
I disagree with her views on a woman's right to choose, teaching creationism in pubic schools and abstinence only education. I respect her right to her opinion, I just disagree.
I tend to think she's hiding something in the "troopergate" investigation, otherwise she'd be cooperating.
Her 80% approval rating in Alaska doesn't really impress me because I don't think as Alaska goes so does the rest of the country.
I don't like to hunt and fish; it's fine that she does but that doesn't impress me either way.
I don't feel that I can relate to her or that she's a lot like me. Not that I care if the next President or Vice President is "just like me".
I really don't care for her speaking style or attitude and I'd really like to see her do some REAL interviews.
I don't think she has a great deal of credibility since she's already been caught stretching the truth in much of what she's said. (The Bridge to Nowhere, the earmarks she's requested, her teleprompter not working at the convention, her visit to Iraq and Ireland...)
I think she's trying to have it both ways - she acts like she's real tough, i.e. the pit-bull with lipstick and yet there are accusations of sexism at every turn.
These aren't any different than I would say about any candidate if they applied and I've read far worse about Democratic candidates here on myLot but is it me or is there a bit of a different standard with Sarah?
So do any of all of these observations qualify as attacks or show a deep hatred for Sarah Palin? Which ones, if any, would you consider acceptable to say in a forum such as myLot?
Annie
[question posted by anniepa]responses and comments:
I'm a bit uncomfortable about the bit about the number of children. Not that I see anything wrong with that but I just wouldn't say that. Beyond that, everything else seems fair game to me. I just may not know how to put them as nicely as you have. [ElaanR2]
Actually, the only reason I mentioned the number of kids is because of all the bickering back and forth with some saying she shouldn't or couldn't do the job because of that, which I totally disagree with and think is ridiculous. I have a good friend with 8 kids so I guess I'm just used to teasing her, (EIGHT kids, are you crazy, girl...lol) and I didn't mean that in any way as a put down unless it's a put down of myself saying I couldn't handle that many kids. Gee, did I just make it worse...lol? Annie [anniepa]
I'd call them opinions. Perhaps not accurate, as I see it, but opinions nevertheless. I do think that accusing her of stretching the truth while ignoring the fact that Obama has done a bit of stretching himself may be considered bias. Truth and lies goes both ways. Whoever one picks as their candidate of choice will fall short of perfection no matter how much they wish it not to be. [irishidid]
ElaanR2, The only points that I posted that cannot be proven with verifiable 3rd party documentation are his claims about smoking. I will respectfully withdraw that one. But each of the other points are documented in either his speeches or public statements. With not a lot of effort you can find those documents online if you are interested in the truth. [Guardian208]
I think they show attacks and deep hatred toward her. I think people just nitpick on anyone at random just to get a thrill out of it. [stephcjh]
I hear you annie, I have stated my points on here and its like you get ostracized as being a monster, its absolutely ridiculous. There seems to be a cliche of 'opinionated' people, I say opinionated because most do not even fact check, and god forbid you disagree then your seen as 'attacking' them--watch your star rating, is all i can say, there appears to be a lack of constructive criticism here [revellanotvanella]
I agree these are your opinions, while they are fine, I am beginning to wonder if Sarah is a bit above most of the women in this country. I think she is a normal working mom. The fact that she can shoot a gun and clean a moose is just an every day thing for her as she was taught to hunt and fish by her father. I also have gone hunting and fishing with my husband and although I have not cleaned a moose, I find that a lot of the women in my neighborhood looked down on me for going as it wasn't a lady like thing. Who is to determine what is lady like and what is not. I find a lot of the women that don't like her is because they have sit on the couch with their many children and never done anything with their lives, and she makes them look bad. As for truth, you aren't going to get it all the way from any of them. I am just pleased that for once we have the chance to put a woman in the Whitehouse even if it is in the second position. It is a step forward as I see it for women. And I see what she has done for the state of Alaska, and I believe she will take that to Washington and try her best to represent the people of this country. Not there to just feather her pocket. As for the kids remarks, how many men run and I never heard anyone ask about how many kids they had. [bdugas]
LOL. Anniepa. I had to laugh about your Keyboard getting worn out. With 5600+ posts I am not surprised. Keep it up. [Guardian208]
I'm not really sure how a personal opinion can be an attack. I think the people that may consider it attack may have "closet" feelings about it or they may be just too afraid of the truth. I do understand where you are coming from lol It really get annoying when you have newspaper articles backing up your claims and still get attacked because you're stating what has been reported and your personal opinion on it. [ZephyrSun]
That is very true, and that seems very silly to me. Now maybe if a family member has been critcised, I might feel the right to be offended, but a perosn who chooses to be in the public eye gives up any privacy. [Barbietre]
Those are all your (and maybe some others) opinions Annie. It is nice to see them worded so nicely. As long as they are respectfully treated as your opinions by others here in the community, they should not be considered as attacks. As for a different standard with her, I don't think so. Maybe because she is just so new to us all, we don't know a lot about her. So the stuff that keeps coming up is scrutinized very deeply. Whether it is true or not, it's flung out there spread like wildfire, only sometimes to be investigated further to find that some of it is not true. However, if Hillary was a VP candidate, it would be no different. Somebody would find a few things on her, hang on her every word an spin whatever she says to suit whatever point she is trying to get across. Or make her previous actions more devious than they really were. Politics is politics. As sick and demented as it is, it is all that we have. Great discussion Annie [dizzblnd]
Not to mention the fact that if it were a man running for Pres OR VP there I don't think there would EVER be any such criticism [dizzblnd]
Anyone who would consider your valid opinions an attack would be willfully ignorant. You've simply stated facts and your opinion of those facts. I know some feel like any disapproval is an attack, but that's ridiculous. Am I under attack if I go to a Mercedes dealership and they tell me I can't have a new car because my credit isn't great and my income isn't high enough? No. They're looking at my current situation, my history, and coming up with an answer that is in the best interest of their financing company. Palin is having her her life and history examined to see if the country wants to issue her the Vice Presidency. You're just being a reasonable adult who loves their country too much to hand it over foolishly to someone you don't think is capable of looking after its best interest. I agree with you on all the points you listed. I would add that, considering her pregnant teen daughter, the fact that she hasn't reconsidered her just-say-no stance on teen sexuality makes me worry. Aren't we already dealing with an administration that refuses to reconsider ANYTHING no matter what contradictory evidence comes there way? [I_Write]
Ive been so annoyed with these accusations that merely talking about Palin's daughter is a personal attack and it NEEDs to be brought on the table but even the media is shying away from it but can we not even look at Palin's own policies and see that what she says often does not add up and it demands more scrutiny--its this crazy Bush Administration (yes, McCain has them working for him) that acts more like a dictatorship and makes it into a crime for you to even question them. Palin will fit right in, she's a queen at not answering questions but rewording her responses into more questions. I couldn't believe she got away with the question at her own rally to give the people ONE example of her foreign policy experience and she didnt even come close to answering the question--heck, I would be raising my hand up in a second if I saw that and ask the SAME question!! [revellanotvanella]
Annie, You've made some good points and explained why you feel the way you feel about Palin. This approach sounds right to me on any board anywhere. By explaining why you feel as you feel, you have done a better job than most people that I see writing on any forum. To me, I don't see the woman as being a capable president; if neccesary, and that is the shoes she may have to wear at some point in time. Her "blunders in politics " have already made her bed. [RhythmWalker1]
Thanks so much for your kind words. I agree with you about her not being capable to be President and why that should be seen as an attack is beyond me. I mean, I happen to love people and have a great deal of faith in the human race for the most part. I firmly believe there are many more good people than bad. That does NOT mean that 99.99999999% of those good people are not qualified to be President or Vice President of the United States, and I include myself in that number. In MY opinion we currently have someone in the White House who also falls into that category so I'm especially concerned that we don't let that happen again. Annie [anniepa]
Hey Annie! FIrst of all, you have the right to your opinion. No matter what its about or who it offends it is yours. Anytime you say something negative about someone it is going to be taken as an attack. You havent said anything that millions werent thinking. You just have the Balls to say it. Also why would you comments be taken as an attack there was no name calling or hateful thoughts. I wouldnt say anything you said was an attack. Truth be told it was just an honest opinion. Dont worry about it my friend. It always laugh when I hear someone ask for an opinion and then say I wont be mad at what you say as long as your honest. Once you give an answer that didnt match the one he or she wanted it becomes an attack. Dont worry about it. If people dont want to know they wont ask. I am the type that if you ask me I will tell you the truth. I would want someone to be honest with me. You keep on giving your opinion and dont worry about what it looks like. I have read many discussions from you. Whether I agreed with your opinion or not, I will agree that they were never attacks for the best bond fund available. If you stop answering with you honest opinion, you have given into society and their way of sugar coating everything. Just think about how many situations the world has gone thru which may have been avoided if someone gave their honest opinion rather than going along with the others just to populat. WOW what a mess!lol good luck and happy myLotting dl [dloveli]
Thank you so much! It means a lot to me because when I get accused of being disrespectful or attacking someone it really does bother me because I don't like to be like that and if something I say is taken the wrong way I want to have the chance to correct it. Annie [anniepa]
I don't think any of the statements you made qualify as attacks. However, the way these some of the same points have been brought out in the media and by some opponents of Sarah Palin, they were attacks. That is simply the nature of politics. I don't particularly care for Sarah Palin. I don't identify with her. There is no connect for me. Her stand on issues that are important to me are too far away from my own. [cbreeze]
LOL, thats funny, OMG I been seeing things like "BLUNT for president" [revellanotvanella]
Hi anniepa, I don't think any of those are attacks. The problem is that any time we question our candidates that other side is going to say it is an attack for political posturing. Now it is not my intent to turn this into a debate on the candidates but what I am about to write is simply for comparisons sake. 1. The number of kids a family decides to have is completely their choice. It should not be a factor either way. I have more children than Obama and and fewer than Palin and that is simply personal choice. 2. The fact that Obama has a passport and has not taken a trip overseas to see firsthand what is going on over in Irag until recently as a photo op, could be seen as troubling. 3. I disagree with Obama's position on right to life, and NOT teaching creationism or abstinence as a choice in schools. They are legitimate choices and failure to make those ideas available in our educational system is akin to censorship. But it is his right to believe any way he chooses. That's what makes this country great. 4. Obama's 71% DISapproval rating as part of congress really DOES impress me. 5. I don't like to hunt or fish either but I respect those that do. 6. I don't feel like I can relate to Obama. Even though I grew up in Chicago and had every chance to register myself to vote, I don't understand why someone has to take a job and get paid as a community organizer to get people to vote. He's just not like me, but it is not important that he is. Neither Bush nor McCain are like me either. 7. I don't appreciate Obama's speaking style. I feel that he is more persuasion than substance, but that is just me. I would like to see him interviewed by someone other than the Obamites in the mainstream media and get asked some hardball questions. 8. I don't think that he has a great deal of credibility. Having spent many years in the company of people like Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko. I think that there are a lot of unanswered questions about those relationships and his involvement with Rezko-gate that need to be cleared up before the election. 9. I think he is trying to have it both ways. He claims that he is a "new style" politician. He stands for "change", but when someone points out that all he is really proposing are failed liberal strategies of the past in new packaging, he cries foul and claims that resistance to his ideas is because we want more of President Bush's agenda. (THAT couldn't be further from the truth, at least for me.) Now these aren't any different than what is said about any candidate and I've heard far worse about Republican candidates here on myLot. Do any of these observations qualify as attacks or show a deep hatred of Barrack Obama? I had a bit of fun with this and I hope that you see it in that light. I think that we are all a bit sensitive when it comes to our candidate and our beliefs. I don't think that any of these topics, yours or mine are attacks on the candidate. But it is all part of the twisted political process. But I would remind you. You are talking about the Republican VICE presidential nominee. I was referring to the Democratic PRESIDENTIAL nominee. [Guardian208]
No, I don't see them as attacks but simply talking points. I'm not going to debate them point by point in this post because that would take us off the original topic a bit but thanks for your contribution. You're absolutely right, I know I'm talking about the GOP VICE Presidential candidate but you have to admit that while the VP is always important if for no other reason than he or she will be literally a heartbeat from the Presidency in this case it's even more crucial than usual given McCain's age and medical history. Annie [anniepa]
"I couldn't see myself with five kids! Not that there's anything at all wrong with it but I couldn't do it!" I can't see myself with any kids right now. I just don't have the time and can't imagine raising a single child while my wife and I work full time. Sine many people are doing it I see no reason to judge her poorly on it. "I disagree with her views on a woman's right to choose, teaching creationism in pubic schools and abstinence only education. I respect her right to her opinion, I just disagree." Contrary to the liberal bloggers she has never pushed to have creationism taught in schools. The issues you brought up are fine. I haven't heard her cry sexism at all to be honest with you. It's been brought up, just not by her. There's no excuse for garbage like what was printed in the news funded by Canadian taxpayers. That was the most disgusting sexist garbage I've ever read and it was written by a woman. [Taskr36]
Okay, I understand what you're saying, and you are correct in that a man would be in the wrong for saying such a statement, at least to some people. No, I don't find it to be sexist, as much as I find it to be condescending to say that the typical woman of today strives to look like a porn star, but then again, with as many porn stars as we have being celebrated by the media, it's no wonder that somewhere some little girl's dream is to be photographed naked (or worse in some people's eyes) for money. Do I think Palin looks like a "watered down porn star?" No, but my husband has mentioned "naughty librarian," and he thinks she's pretty hot. Of course, this has nothing to do with her stance on the issues, and her stance is what I disagree with. To me, she is offensive to feminism. She is pro-life, and, while I think that is certainly an opinion that she is entitled to, I do not want a vice president--who has the potential to be president--who feels this way. I think it is a very hard but very personal choice that a woman should have the right to make about her own body. I have yet to be in these shoes, and I am incredibly thankful for that. I will not pretend to know what I would do in these shoes, either, but I do know that if I am ever in these shoes, I do not want the government telling me that I can't do what I want with my body. This is only one issue I am discussing here, and I know I'm going off on a tangent, but it is an issue that I feel very strongly about, and I have never heard any Republican politician say that a woman should have the right to choose. Do I think that the abortion laws as they stand are fool proof? No. I think there are some instances, though I imagine them to be few and far between, in which a man should also have some say in what happens. Okay, so I know you probably disagree with me here, but this is how I feel, and that is my right, just as you have the right to disagree with me and vote for her. [devylan]
I think the thing about 5 kids is disrespectful. But other than tha ti dont see anything else that is wrong. All you saying about here you are right and i think you should keep stating what yoour stating to assure thatt oyur right sandasd they aera rwrong dfeineitley . So i thinjk yoiu are tdoing the mbes ts yiu can be doing at the is st psotint. Note : Excuse my typing my Kewboard is messd iup [platinum601]
Gosh, I don't think I expected this but you're about the third person who brought up my mention of her five kids. Honestly, I didn't mean it to be disrespectful, not one bit and as I said I only mentioned it at all because of some of the things other have said about that issue that I strongly disagreed with. I'd never say she can't do the job or shouldn't even go for it because she has kids so really that one part was more in praise or at least in defense of her. To anyone at all reading this who took me to be disrespectful, I really do apologize because it wasn't intended that way at all. Let's face it, some people want and some are fortunate to be blessed with large families, some only want one, some are somewhere in between and some choose not to have any and none of these people are wonderful or horrible based on this one thing. It's a personal choice we all make and because one chooses not to have a large family because they know their own limitations doesn't make them against kids or those who do chose to have large families. Annie [anniepa]
I agree with most of what you have said. Even if I didn't agree, I don't think I would consider your thoughts to be attacks on Palin. One thing I do somewhat disagree with is when you say that she is trying to have it both ways. People are complicated. In some aspects we are tough, in others we are not. I'd expect that Palin is no different. [Lee_Rites]
I wouldn't call it an attack but good observation. I agree with you as well and I do not connect with here. I've notice she has always had something, even her marriage was a secret from the parents, her 5th pregnancy, her daughters pregnancy as well. Too many secrets for me to accept. As for the pitbull, they have been known to bite the hand that feeds them and won't let go. Watch Out! [yparson]
Talk about an extremist viewpoint. [devylan]
no i dont think your statements are meant as attacks at her. is she really wanting to teach abstinence only? not that i feel like it would be the only thing that should be taught, i think its better then telling us that the best way to avoid pregnancy is to take it uummmm....somewhere else like i was taught in school 10 years ago... anyway that is a side note and doesnt really pertain to your topic. sorry. [lovinlifemindless]
Oops... "take iT," not "take iS." [devylan]
Annie you are a lot more politically correct than I am. I agree, item by item, what you said. In summary, my problem with Sarah Palin is I worry about her if she gets to be presiden and I do mean worry big time. I think that she was chosen as a "wild card" and her "wild" is deeper rooted than just shooting moose or riding snowmobiles over the wild Alaskan bush. She shoots from the hip and could be used as a pawn in the hands of the wrong people. She is too unknown and these times are some of the most dangerous in our nation's history. [4magoo]
I don't see anything wrong with any of your opinions but I've said worse and I don't see anything wrong with my opinions either. LOL There seems to be a little click that thinks we should give up our first amendment rights when it comes to Sarah from the Tundra. Apparently, every other politician is fair game. We're just supposed to put on kid gloves when it comes to Sarah. Well, it's politics. She's put herself in the arena and she is fair game just like all the rest of them as far as I'm concerned. [irisheyes]
hi anniepa all of what you said is acceptable to say here in mylot. we are supposed to honor and respect each others views so we should be able to have free speech here also. I am not at all impressed with Sarah Palin and would not vote for her,as I am going with Obama myself. no minusing me as I have a right''to my own opinion too. [Hatley]
First things first as a mother of four I would not take offense to the children comment. It is something that many women deal with everyday on top of an important job but then again you have others in the same boat that could not handle an important job and children. As far as all of your other comments above I did not perceive any of them as attacks but merely statements, opinions and points of view that you are more than entitled to. I think any one of them would be acceptable here on myLot. [Simplyme31]
Hi I live in France and have only (lucky you may think) seen her a couple of times on the TV As a parent of a handicapped son now a grown up,, I do dispise any parent who brags their handicapped offspring by having them on stage being held by someone other than herself,as if its a gesture of look at me am I not wonderful.Makes me feel ill. [wendyloo]
Hi annie.. If you don't like Sarah Palin..then you don't like her...It is your opinion and it can be stated on Mylot.. Your opinion counts just as much as anyone elses... There will always be those that want to cause trouble by saying you are being sarcastic or nasty or mean or whatever they say... That is their problem... We all need to, as Americans, choose who we believe is right to run our country.... From what I read...You are not attacking anyone...You are merely voicing your opinion...and others disagree with you because they don't know how to voice their own opinion honestly.... [Feona1962]
I don't consider it an attack at all. I agree with everything you said. She is no different than any other woman and deserves no special handling, and yet she is getting it. The pitbull thing isn't working for her because she doesn't have anything to back it up with. She hasn't made herself available for real interviews on real political forums where the big dogs run! She's been hidden under the porch and until she comes out and backs up that big bark, I'll keep seeing her as a noisy little Pomeranian. One differance we have is: I absolutely hate her stance on "hunting" or what she calls hunting. The fact that she is for aerial slaughter of wolves and bears makes me sick. That is such a cowardly way to "hunt" and I just don't see any self-respecting human being doing that. [CherylsPearls]
No I don't consider any of them to be attacks. They are all just your opinions and they are very mildmannered opinions at that. I don't know how anyone could accuse you of attacking her with those statemtns. I mean seriosuly if they think that's attacking her they should hear some of my opinions about her which I won't state on this post becasue you aksed for people to be nice. [geniouslea]
I think it's fine if you can't see yourself with 5 kids, many people can't. I don't see this as having anything to do with her ability or qualification to do her job, so stating that is irrelevant. I don't think it's nasty or sarcastic, just that it has nothing to do with Sarah Palin lol, even if she DOES have kids. Since when is number of kids something that influences anything? Clearly she can take care of and support them and STILL wants to be in politics. That part amazes me. I'm not sure what the passport thing has to do with anything, are people in politics expected to be frequent international travelers? Is there a reason why this would be odd? I agree with her opinion about a woman's right to choose YET that doesn't mean I am pro-abortion. I simply believe all choices should be available and represented and nothing withheld from people and nobody pushing and shoving in order to sway somebody's decision. I disagree with teaching creationism WITHOUT also teaching evolution. Teach both, I don't care. Only teach one, wrong idea. Abstinence-only is another I do not agree with, because there you go again not telling the whole story. I have a problem with this. What you don't know CAN hurt you! I don't care about her approval rating in Alaska, I don't live there. From what I recall, Alaska does not represent the rest of the United States. The hunting and Fishing thing is as irrelevant as the number of kids she has. I have no idea if she is 'like me' or not, that doesn't matter either. All I care about is that she can do her job reasonably well, follow through with what she promises, NOT LIE, and be in politics to better things, not make them worse, not backstab, and not blame others, not take from citizens without giving back, etc. I am exceptionally tired about all her PERSONAL business being talked about, as far as her children, her family, any problems WITH her children and/or family. It is none of anybody's business, it doesn't have anything to do with her job, and people on this planet as so damn nosy and just awful. Look at all the magazine covers! [mommyboo]
The reason I find it odd that any national politician would not have a passport is that a politician in the national realm (i.e. federal government), especially one as powerful as the Vice President, should have some idea of the international state of affairs. In other words, it would be hard to expect someone who's never stepped foot onto foreign soil to be able to be any good with foreign policy. This is of course only my opinion, but I don't think I'm alone in thinking this way. [devylan]
No politician is perfect and every decision made, both personal and public concerning any politician, becomes an issue. I think that any issue concerning a politician's beliefs in regards to any situation is 'appropriate' in a forum such as mylot, yahoo groups, or any other internet forum. Opinions such as the one of Chuch Hagel should be respected and tolerated but not necessarily accepted by all. [deathtofluffy]
Annie, I agree. Besides a person in the public eye should realize before thye make that decision, they shoud consider that things they say or do will be scruntized. I personally feel I can NOT identify with anything she stands for not matter what party she belongs to. But again that is my opinion and I have right to it. It is very sad when people get so offended by rational person decisions. For instance if I am buying a car and decide I want a foreign one because I KNOW they have embraced better technology and have better gas milage, someone may call me unAmerican. How silly is that?whistle [Barbietre]
I see several comments about you being disrespectful about saying you couldn't have 5 kids. Annie I don't think that it's disrespectful. I mean if you said to me, I could not have a child that has autism I would not be offended and I wouldn't considered it disrepectful. Some people can do different things. Like I could never be a postal worker, does that mean that I am being disrespectful to you or am I trying to offend you? NO I'm just too lazy to walk all that way every day. It was easier to use you and what you did than try to make up something else lol. [ZephyrSun]
As an Australian I'm not in a position to intelligently discuss Palin, although as en environmentalist her stance on drilling oil in Alaska horrifies me. But I am just as qualified as any to consider your style, and I join the veritable chorus of positive response you have got. I am so impressed with your approach that I would love to be able to follow your discussions - friend request on way. Lash [grandpa_lash]
Im with you, with the economy in a upheaval Im afraid now that is going to give the government more ground to sneak in Oil drilling not only in Alaska but in Utah, beautiful landmarks. Its just like the Bush Administration was with getting the vote to go to war with Iraq and now its rush rush oil drilling because thats the only security against everything--thats silly and sad. [revellanotvanella]
I think that you are attacking her. You seem to think that all women are feminist, I mean hard core feminists and you are attacking Mrs. Palin because she does not act like the typical feminist who believe women can have it all, do what men do, and if a woman does not agree with the feminist viewpoint of abortion on demand, free love with no responsibilities, do not have more than two children, etc. then in your opinion she is not a real woman. So you attack her for things that you would not attack a man for. So you have a different standard for Palin. It is as I have said, the Republicans cannot get away with it, but the Democrats can. [suspenseful]
Well, Suspenseful, I know I asked for it but for some reason I feel like I'm the one being attacked here. I didn't even use the word "feminist" at all but I think that is a word Palin has used to describe herself, but I could be mistaken. Where in the heck did the "free love with no responsibilities" part come from? Certainly not from anything I posted! I also didn't say I have a different standard for Palin, I said the right seems to have a different standard for her. By the way, what about Sarah Palin makes you think she DOESN'T "believe women can have it all, do what men do"? I think you've either ignored or not read most of what I DID post here and read things into it that I did NOT post. Annie [anniepa]
Annie,There's absolutely nothing wrong with disagreement with a candidates policies The problem is I've yet to see you write anything having to do with policy.What for instance does having five or twenty five kids have to do with anything and yet you begin your discuss in that manner? You never check facts before you begin writing in this forum and simply spew the crap you get from the joke that is OLBERMANN and company.If your so admiring of the democrats why don't you write something positive on the "empty suits'" behalf rather than make unsubstaciated attacks against the republicans.How could an 80% approval rating not be impressive whatever party or state? The "Troopergate" are you serious? Do you like police officers that abuse kids? REAL interviews..Do you mean like the condescending one given by CHARLEY GIBSON.When are you going to wake up and look at reality?before nov 5th ? [pismeof]
Are you trying to tell me John McCain has no clue when it comes to foreign affairs? [pismeof]
Hello anniepa, Thanks for viewing your opinion with regards to VP candidate Sarah Palin. I only see bits and pieces about her in CNN news and don't really know what's happening there. I am glad you have this post and I have better understanding on what are the issues about her. I guess you will get more comment from people who like Sarah Palin. For me I am just trying to get more information and facts about her. This is a good start and I think there is nothing wrong with whay you said here. You can continue starting discussion like this and you can learn from other responses. Good luck and may the best candidate who can solve the economy wins. Regards. ninjaninjaninja [robert19ph]
I believe my lot is a place to express your opinions and start a discussion to see what others think, no matter what you think. I believe that everything you have wrote would be appropriate to start a conversation, or discussion. Everyone has an opinion and not all are the same. You "own" your opinions, just like I own mine. And there is nothing wrong with that. By the way . I don't think much of Sarah Palin either, I think she is a fradulant person, and I don't believe a word she says. I'm actually voting for Obama, only because of process of elimination, who is lying the least!! Who knows, I might be wrong, but someone has to get in our government and do something!! [freefogging]
From my point of view, anniepa, you're just voicing your opinions. We are all entitled to our opinions on this forum as anywhere else. I agree that she seems to be receiving preferential treatment because she is a female. That is why anything you say that is viewed as negative about her will be perceived as an attack. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Anyone who runs for public office opens themselves up to such intense scrutiny. [worldwise1]
I think that Hillary has been so maligned because she stood by her husband when he was being raked over the coals for his indiscretions while in office. Never mind the fact that he was not the first President to be guilty of such indiscretions just the first to be subjected to the equivalent of a "public flogging." You only have to take a look at the many other political figures who have done the same as Bill and had their wives stand by them to see how unfair this treatment has been. [worldwise1]
I don't think any of them are attacks. To me, they are all acceptable to say on mylot or any other site. Like you, I have read worse about Democrats on here. If its okay for them to say things about someone like Obama or Biden, you should be allowed to express your opinion about Palin. [Bd200789]
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!! I guess it's kind of a case of "majority rules" and since the conservatives are definitely in the majority here it really IS okay for them to say anything about Obama or Biden. Annie [anniepa]
These are your feelings and I don't find them nasty or sarcastic, Ifeel the same as you do. And wish there had been time to investagate her longer. I feel she is important because of McCain's age. Being an senator just doesn't have the stress level that President has. I don't think he will last long. I also don't think Obama will last long either, This country does not have a great history of protection of contraversal Presidents. The way i look at it you should vote for Sara or Biden, Within a year I think one will be President. What do you think? [savypat]
Awww... Lash, can I adopt you as my grandpa? [devylan]
Annie, obviously I agree with you on all of your points, and I am very tempted to take your commentary one step forward, but since you were accused already of attacking Mayor Sarah Palin in such a diplomatic way, I am afraid of what kind of attacks I would receive. [devylan]
Haha. Oh well. Bring it on, people! I can take it. [devylan]
annie, after reading the many comments to your post all I have to say is that Sarah Palin DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME as a white American woman. And she scares the you-know-what out of me with that Annie Oakley, gun-toting attitude; the Annie Oakley character was a different generation far removed from even the one I grew up in and a long ago century, whereas we are now in the 21st Century. Though I thank you for starting a very interesting discussion about the "first Republican woman VP candidate" (the Democrats were way ahead of the Republicans in that they already had Geraldine Ferraro as a woman VP candidate back in 1984). The only difference is that the woman the Republicans picked for VP is nothing like Geraldine Ferraro, who DID SPEAK FOR ME as a white American woman. [rckayla09]
Bravo annie, I agree with your comment 100%!!! Not sure if you know that there are now peaceful anti-Palin protests being held in Alaska? Unfortunately the mainstream media isn't reporting about these anti-Palin rallies being held! Those Alaskans -- men and women -- who are protesting aganist Sarah Palin are trying to let the other U.S. States know that Palin does not speak for all the people of Alaska, and that they are voting for Obama/Biden in November. Also unfortunately, a lot of these peaceful protesters have been threatened by conservative Republicans and even fear reprisal by Palin's administration! The Republican Party is at it again; they will stop at nothing to scare the American people into compliance with their corrupt and greedy agendas. I'm calling the Republican Party what they are -- bullies and tyrants. [rckayla09]
Actually none of them sound like an attack to me . I have five children and if you said that wasn't for you then I could understand that as many people have told me that and not once have I felt like I was being attacked . This site is about opinions and how we feel . It doesn't mean anyone is right or anyone is wrong . It just expresses how we feel about certain situation and different things going on in our lives . An opinion can never be wrong and would only be considered and attack if you told me that because I had five children , I should have my head examined or something rude to that effect . When I ask something I am actually asking how YOU feel becasue I want to know . It doesn't mean you have to agree with me because I am not asking others to agree with me , I just want to know what they would have done or what they would have said under the same situaions . We all have our own beliefs and our own ideas about things because of things we have witnessed , things we have experienced and things we have been told , how we were raised and so on and for this no one is wrong in stating how they feel . I myself seen nothing in there that could be considered and attack and that is how I truely feel . I am saying this just to make you feel better although I do hope you feel better to know that not everyone feels the same about this situation :) [samtaylorskykierajen]
Yes, I without a doudt see a double standard! Honestly her strength is noteworthy, but H.Clinton is just a cold B*tch right? There are so many that are threaten by her being in a power position but not Palin. Also I think all topics should be addressed, including her daughter. The reason being is her daughter disproves her positions on sex education and makes her family look a lot more liberal then she wants us to believe! [Rachel85044]
Yeah, the woman that could actually have run the country and in my opinion is the most experienced of all 4 canidates was passed over! Hmm, well that still irratates me! P.S. The liperoterachel is an old account. I can not get into it anymore! [Rachel85044]
It just sounds like you're giving your opinion. What do you think of Joe Biden? [bestboy19]
I think Joe Biden will be a terrific V.P. and a great President later on, not to mention read in a second if he's called on to take over. He's from my state of Pa. originally so I've followed his career and I'm hard-pressed to find many things I've disagree with him over his 36 years as a Senator. He was a single father for several years and has never forgotten his roots. Annie [anniepa]
Anniepa, You and I have agreed to disagree before on a few issues, but the one thing I will say is I have never read anything you said and felt it was disrespectful to anyone. I think most people here know by now I am a Republican, and for many months I was a very disgruntled Republican, I had no idea how I was going to vote in this election, I was waiting to see who was chosen as VP candidates before I decided. I made no secret of that fact, and that was "MY OPINION", I feel like everyone is entitled to have their opinions in America. That is why our brave men and fight wars, to keep us and as many other nations as possible free, so we can think, live, worship and dream as we please. Never let anyone here or anywhere else deny you that God given right. I myself like Sarah Palin, I will say she and any of the other candidates will have things come out, especially in this last month of campaigning that people will pick to death, but that is why we have minds to think and act. I don't take anything the press reports at face value, I research it for myself. As for the child remark, I guess I am prejudice the opposite way, since we have 10. Sometimes I think I am superwoman and other times I can barely drag my butt outta the bed. The only other thing I want to comment on is the trooper issue. I feel like the reason she is not commenting is because the issue is being investigated, and I can't say as I blame her there. I wouldn't say a word until everything is said and done by the powers that be. (Now my personal opinion, LOL, is if he tasered that child even in a playful manner, he deserved to get canned). Many Blessings to you Anniepa, Marilyn [olivebranch56]
I'm not fond of Sarah Palin. I don't think she's qualified to be Vice President (and potentially President) of the United States. I think that her scandal of the day/week record to date also speaks poorly of John McCain's decision process -- and that his choices in recent years have been largely questionable. Sarah Palin is a a novice, and it shows. I think she is a highly intelligent woman, and she presents very well. She is a crowd pleaser on the GOP circuit. But her words do not stand up to even a cursory scratch test. No wonder the GOP is reserving her largely for photo ops where the press is concerned. [LovesTravel]
Agreed. So far the proof of the pudding has been unimpressive. [LovesTravel]