I suppose this is what's known as "fair play" or maybe "payback", right? I have a feeling this would have been discussed here on myLot MUCH sooner had it been one of the Palin kids who had been called a "street who@re" among other disgusting things, many of them quite racist, for anyone to be called let alone an 11 year old girl! It was on a popular conservative website that many of you have claimed is much more reliable and credible than, say the Huffington Post or ThinkProgress, FreeRepublic. I understand it was left up for around three days and the site's owner was outraged that the photo of Malia wearing a "peace" T-shirt had been "planted" by a liberal. The fact that apparently regular visitors to the site added their horrid comments didn't seem to phase him too much.
Any comments?
Annie
[question posted by anniepa]responses and comments:
Boy, their mud slinging has to stop. This is horrible, but it doesn't surprise me anymore. Thanks for the update. [clutterbug]
I think I may have finally reached the point where nothing surprises me! Annie [anniepa]
Attacking an 11 year old is a new low. I wasn't aware of this, but thanks for bringing it to our attention. I'm getting so tired of the Obama bashing. Just like I was getting tired of the Bush bashing. It seems like people will stoop to anything to get to the competition, and it's getting old. Leave the poor kid alone! She has so many things to grow through as a normal kid, she doesn't need all this too! [cheekysuze]
It sure is a new low. Calling her something like that yet, not to mention the expected racial slurs. Annie [anniepa]
Got a link? I want to pay a visit. Wow, just......wow. This is beyond disgusting. Obama should sue for libal if it is at all possible too. No, strike that, Obama should just use what ever resources he has, track this person down, and smash the pig-fukker in the jaw. [xfahctor]
It was posted on FreeRepublic.com, X, and it allegedly has been taken down but it had been taken down earlier then it mysteriously reappeared. Annie [anniepa]
OK, I've had the TV off today and hadn't heard about this. So I had to google it. Despite the ill treatment of the Bristol Palin by the press, I never heard, read, or saw any "reputable" (and I use that loosely) news source call her "white trash". Not even the Huffington Post. The uproar started because she wore a shirt with a peace sign on it? WTF?! Isn't peace a GOOD thing? And someone got upset over THAT? For God's sake people, it is a freaking shirt!! In my quest for the details, I read some of the horrible things the posters on FreeRepublic had posted. To say that they were vile, racist, hate-filled remarks is an understatement. It is disgusting to me that people with that kind of mentality are still floating around, and that my girls may someday be exposed to them. I will continue to teach them the values I hold dear, so they are armed when they come up against people of such weak character. [milkmaid]
I'm not in favor of affirmative action. never have been. The job should go to the most qualified person, white, black, orange, or green. But I understand WHY affirmative action was instituted to begin with. If we didn't have so much ethnic hate, affirmative action wouldn't have ever been necessary. I don't believe in "dumbing down" tests or other qualifying markers to enable people who are not qualified to gain employment. I've seen managers of companies throw out applications/resumes after only viewing the NAME of the applicants. [JodiLynn]
I wish people would stop calling kids nasty names. They are the true victims, not the politican parents who are always targets. I don't understand the mean streak people have sometimes, do you? Leave them kids alone, that's my only comment. [LincecumFan]
As a parent, I agree with you. Even my kid coming hope upset from some bully used to almost give me a breakdown, personally. The parents who go into politics, particularly at the national level have to think of this element long and hard first. Their children will be in the spotlight no matter what -- and the Internet in particular fosters rampant abuses. You are right -- these are some very sick puppies. [LincecumFan]
This should be illegal for someone to put out pictures of a minor. Especially in a way that portrays a adult act description. The person responsible should be in trouble like child photos. This is horrible to have a 11 years old facing adult experience at such a young age. Being called a adult who name or create assumptions of "adult" acts are just not acceptable. If it isn't true or it is doesn't really matter. It is odd to be that someone is so interested at little kids like that.... Seriously.... It feels as if they are like being like Michael Jackson and they don't get any media or blame for doing things like this. But if it was someone rich and famous and a familar faces they are ready to attack them with full power even if it Crosses the line of a child. Shame on them!godbless [doggyhouz]
Shame on them about sums it up! Annie [anniepa]
Actually I don't agree with 0bama's kids being called names, picked on or gossiped about...however that sure hasn't stopped 0bama fanatics or Palin haters from raking her kids over the coals. Heck, even Clinton's daughter was raked across when he was in office. Why is it that all the mean, nasty, vile remarks are ok as long as it's against the children of the opposing side? But God forbid anyone say anything about the children of the favorable canidate. I seem to remember that 0bama made a very clear resounding statement about all kids being off limits back there during the campaign b/c he did not want any slanderous remarks made about his girls...but the remarks made about Palin's kids were so vile I can't even repeat them...not to mention a video that suggested she bullied her family and beat her kids, not to mention her husband being portrayed as a child molester. I think it's a pretty pathetic sick individual that has to resort to verbally beating up kids...regardless of which canidate's kids they are. Ppl need to grow up and leave ALL the kids alone. ~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS** [twoey68]
It's not right to say rotten things like this about anybody's kids. I never saw any video about Palin beating her kids or anything like that but if I did I'd have been angry about that as well. I honestly don't think I've ever seen any 11 year old girl called something like a "wh@re" before and that's about as low as you can get. Annie [anniepa]
Which site are you talking about? I haven't heard anything about this but, I haven't had any news on today and I haven't been on mylot. I'm sorta interested in if conservatives believe it's cool to call a little kid that. [ZephyrSun]
I think we crossed wires X, I was responding to my original response to Zephyr, where I said I was curious if anyone thought those comments were okay at any time. I haven't seen that rage directed at children here on myLot, only on other adults who keep coming back for some crazy reason. confusedhappy [milkmaid]
Nope, she doesn't deserve to be called a "street wh0re". It would be nice if you showed the same outrage when Palin's daughters were being called the same thing.. but instead of being outraged, you piled on with the rest of the dogs. [ParaTed2k]
Spicey, play the victim all you want, but you started with the attacks. You said something was "wrong with me" and that I didn't care about the attacks on an 11 year old girl. My response and my comments were posted within minutes of each other, but clearly you were so eager to jump to the attack that you didn't look at page 2 of this thread. You can't launch personal attacks at someone and then act like a victim when someone responds in kind. [Taskr36]
That's what happens when people pay attention to the news. I assume, as I have no clue, that this person is the daughter of the President? Who actually trusts a conservative, anyways? lol [fwidman]
This is disgusting and totally unacceptable, I have not heard about this before now but I wish that I had because calling a little girl a wh0re is despicable and wrong, there is no defending something like that, but you are right about where were all of the people who cite outrage on a joke about Palin thats about her adult daughter, but are mum about something so crystal clear offensive and horrible about Obama's daughter????? [spicysweetie21]
You know, I just have to add something here, I know that Taskr and probably some others will have a hoot over this, but Im done with these political discussions, indefinitely....I get called stupid unjustly, I get called illiterate unjustly.....I am tired of people wanting to insult me personally just to bring me down, I am a person, I have feelings, I am not made of stone, but I am sick and tired of people forgetting the fact that people on here still have feelings but yet they still attack personally just because people don't agree with them. I am not going to subject myself to being called stupid for no reason anymore.....go have a party Taskr now, because you, just like other bullies, won in this case. (Posted it here too because this was another comment that I got insulted unjustly in, and Im not going to take that crap anymore) [spicysweetie21]
I hadn't seen or heard anything about this. I see plenty of blogs talking about it but I can't find a direct link to the issue. I've never read Free Republic or a lot of the other political blogs so it isn't that unusual I'd miss it. While I'd say her parents should be a bit more diligent about how she leaves the house, no one has any business with the name calling. She's a young girl trying to show her independence and all of us remember those days we often left the house wearing something we shouldn't have. Still kids should be left out of their parents politics. But neither I nor anyone else at mylot is responsible for the comments on another site. [irishidid]
She was wearing a "Peace" T-shirt. Possibly that was unacceptable to the idiots who posted the ignorant comments on that site. I don't think it would have mattered what she was wearing. Annie [anniepa]
wow, thats all i can say. that is pathetic. [ssward01]
I think that's horrible that anyone would go after an innocent child. She did nothing. They probably have nothing else to say so they go after someone who can't fight back. I think everyone just needs to step back and think about where they are going. They are starting a fight about a child when really it's got nothing to do with Malia. They are just hurting her and it's might end up scarring her. [laurahen]
These people scare the holy hell out of me. They are too dangerous to have in charge of this country!!! They are the Hitlers of America and deserve a similar end. That's all I can say. [jerzgirl]
What people are you talking about? Anonymous morons who make comments on blogs? How would a nameless moron be in charge of this country? [Taskr36]
Annie I shall have the same response that I had when they where attacking the Palin children.... " What goes around comes around" When a Child is called names it should outrage you no matter who their parents are and you should automatically want or feel the need to protect them. Everything I have read is where is the outrage. I remember many people saying and being outraged of the Palins being spoken of and it was not just the republicans. X I agree with you that not only Obama but also Palin should take some serious legal actions if they possibly can. I can not stand how people actually say and type things in their discussions that could be considered slanderous. I remember many moons ago if you did this you and caught you could get in a lot of trouble. This whole uproar about his long form birth certificate makes me bananas, sure you can question his elegibility and you can go all legal but until you know for sure where he was born you should not be able to call him a liar for this reason. Hey if it comes that he was born in Kenya then call him what he is at this point. But for this very moment he is not a liar until someone proves him to be one. [grammasnook]
I'm sure he has the necessary resources to find the IP address of the poster and subsequently find the location it was posted from. Unfortunately, even that isn't a sure thing since they person could have been posting from a place like Panera or Starbucks with free wifi. Still, as a father I totally agree that he should find and smash this guy in the jaw as you said. In retrospect the jerk who hacked Palin's email was dumb enough to do it from his dorm room so this guy may be just as stupid. [Taskr36]
Well to start, yes it's horrible, disgusting and wrong. Now, from what I can find, it was not written by anyone working for the blog. It was in a comment written on that blog that could have been written by anyone. The issue now is that Free Republic is being attacked and blamed for the fact that some jerk made that comment. Since they don't moderate comments before they appear, I'm not going to blame the blog itself. I've seen far worse on CNN and comments don't appear there until AFTER moderators have approved them. The reason people are attacking Free Republic is that apparently it took a day (not three days as you claimed) for the comment to get deleted. I can find no shortage of nasty things written about every member of the Palin family on any number of liberal blogs or even in the comments on CNN for that matter. [Taskr36]
You know what's really sad about this thread Annie? All you have to do is go to page 3 to see where a jerk (Deewinc) used this thread to yet again attack Bristol Palin with more lies. It just isn't going to stop Annie, not even on mylot. [Taskr36]
Miss Obama is not a street wh@re or any kind of wh@re. I think its just mean. [EsmeraldaB]
It is very sad anyone would degrade any politicians child or children,I have never heard of the sites that have been listed in this discussion and I did not clink them not interested in such dirty trash. I do believe the liberal democrats has set the bar a writer for the Huffington post I heard on the news called Gov Palin's year old son Trigg a retard and went on to say Sarah Palin will usher in the generation of retarded kid's. I never read here at my lot liberal or democrat denounce that but I may have missed it if they did. I know Annie has said more then once politicians kid's are off limits and I certainly agree. Maybe if Barack Obama had stepped up to the plate and nipped it in the bud when Gov Plains children was being drug thought the mud it would had been the right thing to do and set the bar much higher. I have read many times here at my lots liberals and democrats saying Gov Palin asked for every thing she got because she put her kid's in the spot light,so maybe other nasty people believe it is okay to call Obama's daghter awful names,it all is very sick and wrong period. [kennyrose]
Rose, I know exactly what article you're talking about in the Huffington Post and I remember at least one discussion here about it which you and I both participated in. I and many other known liberals here absolutely denounced it and I'll do it again - that was indefensible and the author apologized but I don't think that was enough. President Obama has said kids and families are off limits but I don't know what he could do or could have done to nip it in the bud. I haven't seen anyone here say Palin's kids deserved to be attacked in any way. I've already said in this discussion that when people have said nasty things about Bristol's pregnancy that was wrong, I mean as far as calling her names but this discussion really wasn't meant to be about Palin and her family it's about an 11 year old girl. Annie [anniepa]
I've never been to FreeRepublic and this is the first I'm hearing about it. From what I'm reading here, assuming everyone's information is accurate, the original post was fine. It was just a commenter that went off the deep end. I don't like it. It's cruel and vicious to attack a child. But I don't know if I can blame the blog for it. You know, I'm definitely not trying to plant conspiracy theories here, but guys from the Kos, HuffPo and MoveOn have been known to visit the "other side" and create a stir before. Again, assuming the information I have on those situations is also accurate. I'm sure it works both ways in that respect. My point: I wouldn't put it past a liberal blogger to come in and comment and try to trash any credibility FreeRepublic has. But I also don't put it past some fat nerd in his mom's basement with unwarranted racial hatred flowing through his veins and a disdain for women because none will date him. When it's just a commenter, it's hard to tell. I share everyone's disgust, but as far as blame goes, I'm not sure where it belongs besides aimed directly at the commenter. What were the motives? Pure nastiness? Anonymous claim to fame controversy? And if anyone thinks I'm being too Area 51 with my possible theory, it's happened before -- a lot. A reputable teacher (in NY I believe) threw a noose over her door and blamed white kids. Turns out, it was a hoax. I know of others too, but no real details. So if anyone would like to know, I'll try to dig 'em up. :) .... So much news so frequently, it all just flows in and out! Crazy world! Leave the kids be FFS! [matersfish]
I think any great people is also people! [moon1688]
Hi there Annie, that is terrible that an 11 year old is being called this As you know I am not into Politics or anything like that, but this is terrible, this is a Child who is being verbally abused a Child who has done no harm to anyone, it is disgusting that People can do this to a Child it really is [gabs8513]
holy..! who on earth would call a little girl such a thing? that's horrible. [scarlet_woman]
A street wh@re! i mean she hasnt made any babies as palins daughter& the father goes unknown! the thing dosent hold any ground at all to abuse her that way for even the C.N.N& B.B.C would be glad to make headlines with it but it just dosent count at all.! [deewinc]
Taskr, I honestly had never heard about those attacks on Track. I don't read blogs hardly at all, I sometimes come across some when I'm doing a search about something but I've learned little by little what ones are biased towards which side and I know most of them sometimes are pure garbage, no matter which side they're on. I knew about the Huffington Post article, which I posted here that I found disgusting and despicable, but I hadn't known if the writer was just an occasional or one-time contributor or a paid employee. I will see if I can find how to contact Ariana Huffington directly to give my opinion on what should be done with that so-called "writer", for what it's worth. I've always liked her and it does disappoint me if she has knowingly let someone get away with such behavior. Annie [anniepa]
what a nasty and stupid thing to say. at least it has been (finally) removed - i just looked, was a little shocked by some of the comments but this one has gone. there are some far nastier right wing websites out there. a few weeks ago i did a search on a story kennyrose came up with (the one about the black womaan getting management in her office to take down her colleagues americn flag) because it seemed unbelievable and all the conservative/right wing sites had pounced on it and some were vicious racist ones. in the end it turned out to not really be a story when i read, of all things, fox news - unless you think two co-workers squabbling about space is news. [jb78000]
These are the comments of ignorant people. The worst thing to do is lend them credence or publicity. Their lack of ethical center is sad but does not have to be made more so by allowing their comments to become more important than they actually are. Poor Malia, who will have to live with this and likely many other comments over the next several years. As her sister grows up she will likely be the target of some malicious and nasty words as well. It unfortunately does go with the territory and no matter how much their parents try to protect them from the spotlight it will never be enough. No child should be subjected to this, ever. But unfortunately as long as there are politics, as long as there is hatefulness and ignorance, as long as neither side is able to resolve their differences in the political arena rather than the personal...no member of a politicians family will be safe. This is especially true when that politician is so controversial. [lvaldean]
I am not sure where this was aired, but I dont care if it is Obama's kids or Palin's kids, people need to stop this crap NOW. these kids did not run for office and so are therefore not open to this kind of treatment. I think people have gotten ridiculous. Innocent children being called derogatory names, well I just have to say that there is a special place for these people. [laglen]
It would not surprise me. If you start calling the children of one family names, and then call the children of the other family who is in the White House, little angels, etc. sooner or later, someone will take that as White House family worship and start bad mouthing their children. The trouble is with white children, you can call them horrible names and not be considered a racist but if you call a black child, the N- word you are considered a horrible person, but if you call a white child, the H- word it is perfectly acceptable. In my opinion, the N- word belongs in historical novels and news and movies about that period of the 19th and 20th century and not in modern speech and the H- word should be also relegated to history. As for someone calling her a "Street Wh(re" that is not nice unless her mother came out and said that she has been trying to keep her daughter from running around with the wrong crowd. And I doubt that Mrs. Obama would use that term. As for "Are you Happy Now?" I think that is uncalled for. I do not know if Malia acted like a tr*mp, or whether she was acting silly like a regular teenager, but it is her parents' business and not the media or anyone else to see that she behaves. Just as it is the Palin's business that their daughter Bristol behaved, not the media or anyone else's. [suspenseful]
X, Suspenseful ALWAYS brings race into it, she can't help herself for some sad reason. Being called what she was called is not nice PERIOD, there's no "unless" to it, suspenseful and I think you know that. Also, there's nothing to indicate Malia, who is NOT yet a teenager, was acting in any way, she was walking down the street in Italy, I think it was. "Running around with the wrong crowd"? WHAT??? She's the President's daughter and she's 11 years old. Sorry for the mini-rant here everyone! Annie [anniepa]
No child needs to be harassed or belittled in this fashion. I think the person responsible should be held accountable. I don't care whose kid it was. Palin's kids didn't deserve any trash talking about them and neither does Obama's! It is quite disgusting and down right childish. [Shellyann36]
The perpetrators of such dasrtardly acts should be booked and publicly bashed in order to create a precedent .Just to think of what kind of bearing will those comments have on an 11 year old mind horrifies me.. People will stoop to any levels I guess these days, to get their point across. I mean to lampblast a 11 year old teenager just because she happens to be someone's daughter is sadistic. The authorities need to take some firm actions otherwise these lumpen elements will be farther encouraged . [sauman2006]
There are some racist fools out there. It's a shame they can't find someone else to pick on like D1ck Cheney! [iriscot]
If that wasn't some white r@cist badst@rd who put that up there, you tell me what his intension was and if he wasn't as stated, tell me what side of the political scheme he is aligned with!!! [iriscot]
"Are You Happy NOW, Malia Obama's Been Called a "Street Wh@re"?" No. No I'm not happy now. [piasabird]
No I am NOT happy and I even kind of resent the insinuation that you would think that of me or any other myLotter. I think that this was disgusting remark was in the same class as Letterman's insulting joke about Palin's daughter. Actually the insult regarding Palin's 14 year old daughter was discussed here on myLot did you forget that or just decide to ignore it? We have already pretty much agreed that the subject of politicians' kids being off limits to the the media, comedians, etc. So as this remarks was also another disgusting example of how people from BOTH political parties have no respect for family. So shame on them all. [whiteheather39]
I apologize for that title, whiteheather. I didn't mean to insinuate that I think that of you or others here and I quite honestly don't know why I worded it that way. I was still bristling over being called some nasty names myself here and I typed the title first and then finished the discussion and more or less forgot about the subject line and hit submit. To everyone here who has responded, I know you're not happy and I'm sincerely sorry and I really hope I haven't offended anyone. Annie [anniepa]
What is the point of this? I fail to see how all these supposed 'adult' and 'responsible' and 'decent' and 'dignified' people can possibly justify the comments they make about people's children. We all know were any of those peoples' children to be attacked, even by a personal friend in jest, they'd get all up in the person's face, yet it's okay to make comments about Obama's daughter(s) or Michael Jackson's daughter? Pfft. As I said before, people are crazy. [mommyboo]
It is ridiculous and you're so right, some people act worse than middle school students. I know, my two grandkids are in middle school and I know lots of adults could take some lessons from them. I'm not bragging either, they're normal kids, I'm not trying to say they're perfect angels but they are more mature and considerate than some "adults" I've come across lately. The sad thing is, with politicians like Obama and Palin who are both polarizing figures, the kids are the ones made to suffer the most no matter what. They're going to be hurt even if they're not the ones attacked because it's their parents being attacked and they love them. The feelings people have for both of them range from love to hate and everything in between except for indifference it seems. When people let their dislike or even hatred for a parent transfer to the children, that's just plain sick. Annie [anniepa]
Hi, Annie! While I don't advocate any limits on our rights, this whole thing is WAY out of line! It should be required that people so full of hate participate in sensitivity training, or in some way be punished for their horrid expressions! Joanne [cobrateacher]
I saw the picture of Malia wearing the peace t-shirt and couldn't believe the comments that were made! But, since this is America, why should I be surprised that the sick and disgusting, twisted azzholes would pick on a sweet and innocent 11 year old girl for some lame and stupid reason! I just don't understand why they can't get a life and find something more feasible to do and someone older to pick on! Leave the sweet innocent child alone! What did she do to you? It's just a friggen peace sign on a t-shirt! [Opal26]
great Peope is also ordinary people! [moon1688]
I think it is horrible on either side of politics for anyone to involve the kids whether it is in humour or otherwise. I'm sure it is tough enough on the kids always being in the limelight. They are just kids...let it be positive. Whoever sling such insults, well, it makes them look worse than what they are trying to make the kids look in the eyes of most people. I'd like to believe that anyway. maybe I'm being naive. sad [sid556]
I had not seen this till now, but it is outrageous no matter WHAT your feelings are about President Obama. Honestly, this is taking things much too far! [mehale]
It's quite clear that the people who made the nasty racist comments that were made by forum posters were ignorant and inexcusable. It is a forum, though. Anytime that people can leave comments on a blog post or news story, you will find wackos who post outrageously nasty things. I had a question though, you said the photo of Malia was planted by someone other than someone at the FreeRepublic? Was this an article or post about the picture or just comments left by visitors about the picture? The only reason that makes a difference is because if the comments that are objectionable are made by posters they aren't the writings of the publication itself. Comments left on any website are the words of the readers. I hate to admit it, but people are nasty all over and on both sides of the fence. If the comments were really bad, then they should have been deleted and it was tasteless of the site to leave them up. No example of attacks on children are better or worse than others, they are just wrong. However, if the attacks are written by staff of established media sources, then there is a huge difference in their effect than the ramblings of some of the morons who visit forums. [Rollo1]
I don't care what polition it is their kids should be off limits......I don't think anyone likes name calling like that....If they do they had better take a good look at themselves they have to be sick to talk like that......I personally think that most people get angry when anyone takes out their kids should be fired for doing it..... It's the parnets that are in the public eye not the children.....that is really discussing...... [nzinky]