I first want to thank TaskR for pointing me to this forum. I now want to pass it on to everyone else, whether you are an Obama supportter or not, you need to see this. Obama needs to see this stuff himself. He would do well to not only distance himself from it but publicly and openly denounce this forum by name.
A number of threads stood out so it was hard to pick just one to use an an example but after a serious vetting process, I think this is a good introduction to what is inside this place.
In the "Obama youth brigade" section. the title of the thread, and it is a sticky, "List of parents who don't support Obama"
Opening post:
"For the youth today it is hard to understand parents who don't support Obama. This is common for many of the young people of this generation, just as the youth back during the civil rights era had parents who just didn't understand the racism like they saw it. Many of you are struggling with the fact that your parents just don't get it. They don't feel the same about Obama the way that you do. They still cling to their old ways of guns and bibles and greedy capitalism. You know better. You know that Obama, and the Democratic marjority, can run things better than those greedy corporations. You know that the best way to run an industry is to nationalize that industry.
That is why this thread has been created. For you, the future of our nation, to let us know who your parents are. Tell us the names of those who do not support Obama the way that you do. Let us know if your parents own guns, or wish ill will toward the government. Let us know before it is too late for you and too late for your country.
It is the patriotic thing to do. Let the government take care of this problem for you.
List your parents name here."
http://theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=1779
[question posted by xfahctor]responses and comments:
That is just nuts. And why are people actually putting down names. They seem just as wacky as the person that started the forum. [Ruthep]
Good lord!!! Do all young people think we are a bunch of wife beating, gun toting, neo-nazi,toothless trailer white trash! I am an educated middle aged, business owner who happens to think the newest president is one of the biggest mistakes of the last 25 years! And I also happen to think that Condolezza Rice would make a damn fine president! So they can blow it out their ears as far as I'm concerned! [hornswaggled]
Isn't that weird? I could care less if the president is married or not....I don't know why that's an issue.....it isn't like anybody follows values in America anymore anyway (ha ha...!) [hornswaggled]
The part that scares me are the kids that support Obama.They don't know what's going on in the world.How can they know enough to support anyone? [oneidmnster]
LOL, looks like anti-Obama propaganda to me. Lets scare people into making Obama look like Hitler!! [murderistic]
I doubt it is a joke. There really are people that will fall for this junk. [K46620]
helllllllooooooo can you say McCarthyism ?? rat out everyone who doesn't think like you. i voted for obama, because for me, it was the lesser of two evils. i cannot remember voting for a single presidential candidate that i actually LIKED much less supported. [dvschic]
Excellent point. That is an excellent example of the conservatives attacking anyone they thought did not support them. It is far too easy to destroy people just by naming them without any proof. If you want to destroy someone just give an anonymous tip that he or she is a child abuser and even if the person is innocent they will still be tarred in public. [sharra1]
I don't think that's an Obama sanctioned forum. But yes, those people are for real as are those who make those kids march around and sing Obama hailing songs. We have seen those youtube videos. Those are the same people who immediately accuse you of racism when you don't fully support Obama. There are even people who go so far as to label non-Obama people terrorists and tell you it's treason if you post anything negative. Yes, they do exist. Seems that the last election turned out the worst in some people. I can only hope that this movement doesn't gain in popularity. I thought we were better than ever letting something like that happen to the US. [jonesy123]
Obama for year's has steadied Hilter,the Obama agenda has been in the makings for at least twenty plus year's,it was conceived in his Harvard law school day's. Obama has taking our youth by storm because he knows how Hilter did it and other evil dictators of the world and all over powered whole counties. We have Obama's face on plates,coins,books,magazines,crap paper,condoms,shirts,store front windows, and next comes the bill boards and mirrors on public building's just like dictator Saddam Hussies did it. I give up on talking sense to the Obama supporters here they have sold their souls to Obama he is their King and Messiah,to them Obama poops gold brick's,this has happen through out world history alway's with the very same results the people's freedoms taken away,over taxing the people,suppression, then comes death and bloodshed. In a lot of universities these creeps professors like William Ayers anti-Americans haters spew their evil and they have taken over the young peope minds, no one can save them from themselves it is just a waste of ones breath,their minds have been greatly altered and they have lost direct as to what is right. [kennyrose]
When I read your post I went to u-tube to get Louis Farrakhan's video, a speech he made last year to the youth,U-tube has removed it,I'm sure Obama and Farrakhan saw it would reveal Obama's true agenda for our youth,it was certainly very creepy. In the video Louis Farrakhan called Obama the Messiah and told the zillion Muslim youth in the crowd in a creepy voice Barack speaks and the youth follow him where ever he goes. Our youth are in grave danger, Obama is using the same tools Hitler use when he took over the youth in Germany,American's really do need to wake up,the hour is late. At the link below some of Louis Farrakhan speech to the youth is in this article. http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=2198 [kennyrose]
p.s. his "end of racism" phrase is quite ironic.. kind of like the notorious pastor? with connections to President Obama (his name escapes me right now).. [flowerchilde]
I saw that site last week when TaskR brought it to my attention. It scared the you know what out of me. There are always dislusional people on all sides and parties but these guys take the cake. Offended was an undestatement. People who think like this are not only dangerous to people but to this country as a whole. Lets hope they stay in their little forum and leave the rets of us alone. [lilwonders456]
This site has been brought to you by vBulletin, at http://www.vbulletin.com, phone number: 1-877-326-6444. You can also provide feedback via email at info@vbulletin.com, or write to them at: Jelsoft Enterprises Limited Howarth Lodge 7 Reading Road Pangbourne Berkshire RG8 7LR United Kingdom I have always supported freedom of speech but this activity, especially, is out of line. It's an invasion of people's privacy and could potentially put innocent people in jeopardy. I encourage anyone who is as outraged at this as I am to contact vBulletin and complain. [spalladino]
Ain't politics fun? This is obviously not an Obama sanctioned site. Get real people. I even watched the little Utube thing on the registration site. When you actually go to Utube where you can see it full size, it is a Hurricane Katrina Issue. That is what the small print says when it comes up to legible size. I did not vote for Obama and I could easily say that this is a terrible thing that he is doing etc. etc., but he is not doing this. This is being done by a bunch of misfits using his name. Someone needs to bring it to the attention of his people and have it pulled from the net as slander. This can be and should be done. Shalom~Adoniah [Adoniah]
Thank-you I dislike misrepesentation and outright slander! Shalom [Adoniah]
It is outrageous whether it's "for real" or not, which is something I can't seem to decide. I can see why the one poster thinks this forum was intended to be satire but the things is, whether it's serious or satire there are crazies who may take it seriously just as there are crazies on the right who may take everything they hear or read seriously. Annie [anniepa]
your right. wether it is serious or not this site is bad. And could encourage some really bad things. [lilwonders456]
i was just re reading 1984 actually listening on my iTouch on the commute to work. it is funny because the children are the ones who turn in the parents to big brother. This is nothing new but it is scary just the same. this does go hand in hand with the socialism agenda the current administration is trying to achieve. The best situation under this administration is 50% of the people supporting the 50% and once 50% are on the public dole they will never come off. a permenent welfar state. There is the hope they all voted for. [tea512]
I'm pretty sure these people are just writing their own names, actually. Or making them up. Because I don't think any of them actually voted for Obama, LOL. [murderistic]
Okay now this is going a bit TOO FAR! I am an Obama supporter and I cherish the fact that I have the right to make a choice, cast a vote and be vocal about it without fear of reprisal. How dare you or anyone else attempt to "ostricize" someone for their GOD GIVEN RIGHT to MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES and to go another step further and attempt to get their children to publically speak out against their parents is WRONG . . . WRONG . . . WRONG. There is NOWHERE on this earth on the next where your request would be considered appropriate or acceptible. [Babyradford8]
Fake or not, there seems to be enough to call in the question the forum's validity. Of course I've seen other forums featuring different topics but similar zealotry. I have to admit on that particular forum it seems some members are parodies of themselves (the avatars give it away) and there are the member titles (which we should have here instead of the crapstartacular system but fine)... those too seem too farfetched to take seriously. After that I saw some members with less posts who seemed more real than the obvious forum "stars". Without the question of fake or not, it still shows that perhaps the place is drawing real people with a like mindset as the forum's overall message. And this happens with both real, joke and fake forums (there are a few people that take TheOnion stories seriously, notably if the message is something they are overpassionate about). Other than that X, I have one other theory. Perhaps that forum is where trolls go when they die(internet-wise of course). [theprogamer]
You know what. Its time for some internet returnfire. Here's a pic with my reaction to that forum. [theprogamer]
Honestly, I can't understand half the posts on the forum. In what someone said the way to get what you want in life was to get an education. He or she got called a derogatory white name. I also noticed that only the ones they think are white get banned. Seriously, how can anyone buy that crap? [irishidid]
I agree with what a few others have said, that forum thread (maybe the forum too, since I haven't looked around as much of the rest of it as I'd like since I don't have time to at present. The fact that a person can actually register on there proves that it's a real forum...can anyone get anything solid on the copyright of the site?) was likely created in order to spread propaganda. Considering the huge amount of members active there at any one time, however, pretty much cancels out the possibility that there are NO people on there who're as whacked as the propagandists themselves. Just how many is hard to say. Looking through the thread, I see some people who're upset by that list...the word fascist comes up several times -- and justly so. I also agree that it's highly unlikely that our President actually knows about that forum and that he sanctioned this effort. It's likely to be done by people who love division and discord...and maybe even the idea of a completely fascist President, in their own right. For the record, I'm not an Obama supporter and I happened to be too young at the time, to vote, during the elections. This is awful. What do you think we should do about it, xfahctor? [xParanoiax]
The last straw for me was the thread calling for the posting of license plates of dissenters. I emailed the whitehouse with a link to the forum. I don't know if it's for real or just a parody put up by oposition, people just trying to stir things up and create hate, or a site for real supporters. Either way, it's not good and parody or not, there are people who actully think like that. [xfahctor]
I don't know how that forum started, but it's obviously been overrun by caricaturesque depictions of what some Obama opponents think of Obama's supporters. Most of those posts are just too ridiculous to be real. [MntlWard]
Wow. I never thought this would happen. The people that actually wrote down their parents name are so parentist. (I did not know what else to write since it does not qualify as racist). Some people are going way overboard with Obama being president. Obama is a regular human being. The fact that he is part African American should not matter. The only thing that should matter is how he is going to rule the United States as president and if he will do or not do a good job. [elysium]
Its someone just trying to stir the pot. I'm afraid that this presidency could end like the two others directly affected by a fear of change--Lincoln and Kennedy. I think that naming names would only serve to put us back in time, in another form of society. My daughter and I differ greatly on political views, so we don't discuss current politics, only history. And rather than start a fight, I think that the Republicans pushed through a loss this time because they realized that perhaps their best candidate WAS too old and gave him such an inexperienced running mate? The Democrats nearly destroyed their own party by attacking one another in such a negative way. This election divided friends and family in such a negative way, and this call to ask children to name names is a prime example! [scorpiobabes]
Oh my God! I read that page and feel so sick from it. Chances are, those kids just signed death warrants. Since when did anybody need that kind of information. And to have the kids gather it for you. the audacity! Ya know, during the election, my 14 year old daughter told me she supports Obama. I asked her why and she said because when he wins and all of the people who didn't support him are placed in concentration camps, she will be free. At the time I thought it was a joke..... [laglen]
It may very well be sarcasm, but I think it pretty well sums up a troubling sentiment and oncoming trend.. (I've read the book of revelation/apocalypse, actually understand it (and wrote a book about it) so let me tell ya, the twilight zone is not that far off.. And the liberal direction moves us in that direction faster than the conservative.. [albeit 'world peace' will be declared first, and an x(?) u.s. president will step into the u.n. which will be a true world governing.] [flowerchilde]
What is scary, is that some kids would actually "turn in" their own parents! To be so far removed from what is going on in the family to actually believe that stuff and turn in your own parents for an opinion! Wow! Talk about Big Brother is watching! Really scary! [estherlou]
Actually that is what happened in Nazi Germany and in Soviet Russia. Children were so indoctrinated by the State that they actually turned in their parents as enemies of the State. Sad by true. [suspenseful]
I'm not even going to look at it. It would register as a hit, therefore why give them what they are going to use to prove that the site is real. About a week ago, I read that the teens of the Nation were up in arms about the stimulus package, how they felt that they had been tricked into supporting Obama and any number of bull crap pieces of propaganda that would insence a young mind that really didn't have the understanding or experience of the political world. I thought that it was a shame to think that it was the adults, the spoilied rich adults, the spoiled rich, industry driven, "don't you dare take my money from me" adults, that would use a less educated, or inexperieced mind to turn the tide of the politcal arena around to the adults benefits. That is mass manipulation. That is a group of Republicans having a temper tantrum. That is a "I'm going to poison the mind of the young people, the future of our Nation, so I can stay fat and rich" mentality. I'm just surprised that the site hasn't been taken down yet. DCMerkle [DCMerkle]
Whoa, that's insane... blink It's so blatantly said as well, seems a bit weird to me (well, even more weird on top of the overall craziness of it doh). The worrying thing is, I'm sure there are a lot of kids out there who will get caught up in that and end up getting a lot of perfectly great parents into trouble. I support Obama by the way. Well, I would if I was in the US rolleyes [LilyLoretta]
I wonder if this how the Nazis started, sending out letters to school children and asking them to list their parents who did not support Hitler. This does sound dangerous even if it were done in sarcasm. I know that those who support Obama, the Obamamites say that this was set up by Obama's enemies to make him look bad, but think what if was set up by Obama supporters themselves? After all those who are against Obama have the rest of the internet, OnenewsNow, and other sites that tell people that Obama is a socialist, is far to the left, etc. and is for giving special privileges to certain people, and spending money you do not have, etc. So there is no need for them to start a forum. But if you want to scare people in supporting him and make them think Big Brother is watching them, this is the way to go. Remember it worked in Nazi Europe. It could work in the States as well. [suspenseful]
I think an Obama supporter wrote that, one of those who wanted Obama to be elected at all costs and would stop at nothing to get him in the White House and one who was off the deep end, an evil person. I mean it is easy for you to think that a Republican =like a McCain or a former Bush supporter writing this, but suppose someone read about Obama setting up youth camps, and took it a bit farther, maybe someone whose grandfather or great-grandfather was an immigrant from Nazi Germany, like someone formerly in the Hitler Youth. Now I have read a lot of history and movies about pre World War II and it does not take a stretch of the imagination for this to happen. Of course, you are so interested in insulting people that you really do not care. What you should do is to find out who started this forum, find out if it is an Obama supporter, and maybe find out if Obama is behind it. If you suppose that Obama knew nothing about this, and that the one who started the forum was trying to get points, then Obama will make a statement that he does not approve of such misuse of his image. If it is as you suppose a Republican, then who is the leader of the Republican party can take steps to get that site removed, because that person is insulting the office of the presidency of the United States and making America look bad. Me? I do not know whether this site was a sarcastic site set up by Obama;s enemies or friends. I gave a theory of how totaliarism started and I know that there are people like you who are so intent on insulting people who say what might happen that pretty soon, those people stop warning others. Oh let us suppose on the rare (see former word is in bold letters)chance, this does happen that children will have to send a list of those who do not support Obama and that camps are set up to inter such people. I hope you do not blame those who told you so. [suspenseful]
I don't know what the intent is, real or sarcasm, or both- probably some people are being serious and others are joking- but if Obama or any other national political figure took the time to go denouncing every crazy website out there, they'd have no time to do anything else. I hadn't heard of this one until now, I can only imagine how much more craziness there is out there. The government needs to govern, so denouncing crazy websites can't be that high a priority when the economy is a mess and all. [belavrana]
It is only a matter of time before there is such a thing as "thought crime", as Orwell's 1984 accurately depicted. You can bet that Obama's team not only supports such websites, but is an integral partner in them. Why? Because he has never been anything but a "new Messiah" to some of the American people, and to others he is the Anti-Christ. It has gotten just that serious, and as a tyrant and a dictator, he can pretty much get away with everything. The main thing to remember is not that Obama is the bad guy - it is those who he has selected to serve in his administration. It's payback time. Time to dole out Federal funds to those from whom he took his campaign money. Those who supported him during the election. Those who were his voting base. Those, specifically, in the Democratic party, and supported the Liberal agenda from the beginning. They'll be screaming for more dollars, more bail outs, more laws, and more of the welfare state that has so obviously failed to end poverty or make health care or schools #1 as we once were. I understand that Bush so completely disgraced this country, and put us so far in debt, that we had to have "change". Never-the-less, he did protect gun owner's rights, and somehow managed to keep us from having another 9-11. Obama will not last 4 years, as much as I would like him to. I want him to age as other Presidents have aged. I want him to testify before a grand jury as Clinton did. I want him to experience every last excrutiating moment of being the "commander in chief", including a full-blown court martial of why this Kenyan-born man is now in charge of all of our armed forces. Hey, kids: If anybody reports that I've got weapons, you're not telling any secrets. No joy there. I do have them, and if you or anybody else attempts to take them from me, that will be your last day, for I live in Texas. Texas won't even arrest me for defending my home and family against breaking-and-entering. That's the reality, boys and girls. You get it firmly fixed in that undersized brain of yours - guns are for our defense, not for going out and harming others without any pretense whatsoever. If not for guns, you wouldn't be able to play on your computer till all hours of the night. You wouldn't be able to text message your friends. Why? Because this great land of ours would not exist, for we would have lost to the Native Americans who didn't want us, or our numbers, in the first place. Those guys had some ways of dealing with us "pale faces". Maybe you're a pale face, too. All I can say is, go get a job. Work for a living for a change. If you can't find a job, ask your Daddy to borrow the lawn mower, and go cut some grass. I did it, and so can you. If your Daddy owns a gun, then my advice is to let him hold onto it, or else you may be pushing up daisies before he turns loose of it. Not at the hands of him, but of the very government that you would report it to. It's called, "crossfire". I'd really love to explain how this works, but the Randy Weaver incident showed that sometimes it's not the perp that gets killed, it's the woman and the child instead. Best stay out of that whole argument, if you ask me. Go cut some grass, shovel some snow, or take an ice cream sandwich to an elderly neighbor who needs some company. Stay out of the gun-reporting business. [keymandan]
I just wanted you to know that I got "admitted" to this site and I told them a piece of my mind....and I was in the majority from what I could see....there seems to be a lot of people totally ticked off about the snitching thing....Good work guys....we have to keep people on their toes with this kind of crap! [hornswaggled]