April 26, 2004

Memo To Kerry Campaign

Don't Have Your Candidate Lie

i mean, this is a controversy that the republicans are pushing , the republicans have spent $60 million in the last few weeks trying to attack me. and this comes from a president and a republican party that can't even answer whether or not he showed up for duty in the national guard.--link

There is ample evidence that Bush showed up for duty in the Texas Air National Gaurd. The only question is did he put in enough time to complete his obligations.

Especially don't have your candidate lie on national television.

Posted by Steve at April 26, 2004 09:23 AM
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I thought the military records released by the WH proved beyond any reasonable question that he accumulated enough service points due to his drilling that he qualified to be released from any further obligation. Many vets and reservists poured over the records to debunk the awol allegations. The fact that the story went away suggests that there is no there, there. Did I miss something?

Posted by: Forbes on April 26, 2004 12:04 PM

Forbes,

When I stopped paying attention to that issue, it struck me that there was a fair amount of evidence that Bush did complete his service, but there was still some small room for doubt. But even with this being true, Kerry is still misleading with his statement...and I'd say he is doing so deliberately. I'm sure he was all giddy when Kevin Drum was leading that charge.

Posted by: Steve on April 26, 2004 01:34 PM

They (politicians) lie for the masses. That makes television an excellent place to do it.

Posted by: Robin on April 26, 2004 02:54 PM

Where is there room for doubt? An honorable discharge plus records of all required time being served SHOULD have settled the matter. Everyone who knows how to read military records says there are no problems; the only holes have been created by people who turn a missing period into a missing page.

The reason Kerry brought it up is, well, he was cornered. Like a skunk, his response was to to spray and pray.

I figure his smear will get maybe two minutes attention as its related back to the last outbreak of the story, then it will get ignored. Then, in a month or two, his campaign will bring it up again, and the reaction will be even more muted. They'll keep doing that until no one bothers to refute them, then they'll declare it to be TRVTH.

Posted by: Robert Crawford on April 26, 2004 02:54 PM

Yeah, presidential candidates lying is BAD news.
But the point is that Bush is ATTACKING Kerry on his military record. How can he attack Kerry when he skipped out and joined the National Guard. Now, a lot of very nice, intelligent people also went the Guard route, but they don't walk around all macho accusing Vets of "faking" their Purple Hearts. Whether Bush served in the Air National Guard or the Yale Cheerleading squad, he has NO business attacking Kerry's military record.

This is all a discraction from the fact that millions of American's have no health insurance, no job, crap schools, etc. Can John Kerry solve all those problems (does he even care) no (maybe).
Does George W. Bush care about healthcare?

Posted by: littleboxes on April 26, 2004 05:05 PM

Let's see a quote where President Bush attacks John Kerry on his actual military record. We'll wait. The accusation on your part, littleboxes, is baseless.

Meanwhile, Democrats have made false claims about President Bush's military service for years. The hypocrisy was astronomic long ago.

Some people are attacking John Kerry on the question of whether or not his actual military record matches John Kerry's own inflation of it. There are real questions about it.

However, I'll tell you what I'm attacking John Kerry on, and it is his behavior _after_ returning from his four month deployment to Vietnam. And his behavior was quite contemptable. John Kerry since his deployment has been on the side of America's enemies quite regularly since then - starting with contacting representatives of the North Vietnamese government while we were at war with them.

Posted by: Robin Roberts on April 26, 2004 06:02 PM

littleboxes: where is the link on the Bush attack? I sincerely doubt you can back up your statements about attacking Kerry's military record (I _am_ assuming you mean his service record and not his Senate voting record on matters military) with evidence or fact. I would appreciate some evidence.

The rest is just rant. The schools in Detroit, for instance, suck not because of anything Bush does or can do, they suck because the education personnel in Detroit like it that way. Check some actual facts on the uninsured and see how many are uninsured by choice (that is, they could afford it but don't buy it.) Also, we have more people employed full-time than all but about 5-6 countries have people (and that's not counting the gray employment market).

Pull your cranial cavity from your anal aperture. You can see better that way.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie on April 26, 2004 06:02 PM

This posting at Powerline is hilarious, it shows that Kerry's campaign - just like Kerry - can't tell the same story twice ... in just a span of minutes.

So when do we start on a pool on when the "Draft Hillary" campaign starts for real?

Posted by: Robin Roberts on April 26, 2004 06:18 PM

"So when do we start on a pool on when the "Draft Hillary" campaign starts for real?"

Now _that's_ a frightening thought. The Democrats have already established the legal precedent for switching candidates at the last minute. You guys are starting to give me the willies.

As for the betting pool: I bid a racing pod, a space cruiser, and my mother.

Posted by: vader on April 26, 2004 09:29 PM

The reason Kerry brought it up is, well, he was cornered. Like a skunk, his response was to to spray and pray.

Yep. He was caught lying to (in muliple ways) about throwing his / someone elses ribbbons / medals over the White House fence, and tried to change the subject.

It reminded me of a teenager caught in the act trying to shift the blame. "Yeah, well Tommy was making out with his girlfriend at Lookout Point Saturday!"

Posted by: Dave on April 27, 2004 07:51 AM

It's deja vu all over again, Robin.

Last year Vodkapundit had a posting like this and I wrote something along the lines of, "there'll be such a great hue and cry that surely Evita will run."

I decided to channel The Ten Commandments.

Dem convention will be entertaining, Pubbie convention will be violent.

And the Olympics....

It's going to be a long, hot summer (another movie I like).

Posted by: Sandy P on April 27, 2004 08:06 AM

Kerry's purple hearts, if closely examined, may well prove he did not earn the third one, for sure. And I've heard nothing to say he was not ambulatory for the first two. But, as to the third one, even his commanding officer, on the news, said he did not feel the supposed "wound" deserved to be considered worthy of a purple heart. Also, he said Kerry DID NOT report to what the Navy calls "sick bay," or "dispensary," a medical unit generally set up where there are enough people to warrant it. But, guess what, you can bet your socks Kerry knew the THIRD AWARD would put him on homeward bound transport.

Posted by: Edwin P on July 8, 2004 11:58 AM

did I mention that I love America?

Bush himself has not attacked Kerry's military record. But it is being attacked, he is not coming out against these attacks either (of course being a politician and not a human he won't do the decent thing).

I just don't see how anyone can criticize John Kerry's military record. Who cares if he only *really* got wounded twice...in a god damn horrible war.

I'm not saying vote John Kerry. Fact is, he probably won't solve anyone's problems. It is not clear it's his job to solve anyone's problems. But why attack his military record? It just seems dirty.

I do think there are uninsured people who are uninsured by choice. But they are not ALL of the uninsured,trust me (I know you won't), more than a handful of americans work in several part time jobs to support their families but have no health insurance. That just plain sucks.

Neither party seems interested in doing anything about it. I feel that George W. Bush does not care about ordinary americans. He cares about rich people. And if that is who John Kerry cares about as well...then we need another option (and I don't mean Ralph Nader).

--littleboxes (head firmly up ass)

Posted by: littleboxes on July 23, 2004 07:36 PM
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